Author Topic: Went from a 0 out 10 to a 3 out of 10 orgasm today, I may have found a possible  (Read 1967 times)

muffslayer

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Hey guys. My back story is I've been suffering from EA since the age of 16 (I'm now 29).

Recently I've got a fiance, I watch much less porn, and I've dabbled in weed. However none of these has brought orgasm back, alone, or with her.

I also try to regularly take my supplement stables of liquid magnesium, zinc, and vitamin e every night. None of these have effected my orgasm.

However at 4pm today I went for a shower, and decided to rub one out, and even though I can't remember an orgasm as such when ejaculating, after the ejaculation, my penis head was so pleasurable and sensitive, and rubbing it after ejaculation caused me to urinate several times due to the pleasure, and I also remember my leg would shake a little bit. Also note I used some Rose oil I found (first time).

Anyway the only thing I had done differently, is I bought a load of different types of fiber from myprotein.com, because I wanted to try and lose some weight before my wedding, and read that eating a mixture of fiber helps suppress appetite. So I bought 5 different types of fiber, and have been consuming a lot of it yesterday and today. Also this is the first time I used Rose oil as a lubricant, though I doubt this would have had such an effect.

Now I'm not saying that fiber is the connection. But this is probably the best pleasure I had from my dick in a long time, so I wanted to post it here just in case there was something to it. For example maybe there is a link to the fiber I'm eating, to feeding the bacteria in my gut, causing them to create the right hormones or neurotransmitters or something to give my dick some pleasure; I have no idea. But I thought I'd post it just in case there could be a connection.

The fibers I bought were:

Apple Fibre
Inulin (Fructo-Oligosaccharide (FOS))
Guar Gum
VitaFiber (Isomalto-oligosaccharide (IMO))
GLUCOMANNAN (Konjac)


VitaFiber is interesting because it's sweet (60% the sweetness of sucrose), but it's low calories (practically none) like other fibers. Definitely the easiest to take. But the sweetness makes me wonder if gut bacteria can use it.

For those who are wondering, I try to take a teaspoon (5g) of each, and down it before each meal. However if you try this, fibres, especially in powder form, can swell and get stuck in your throat, so be careful.

Anyway whether there is a connection there or not, I have no idea. But I thought I'd pop back and post it. The other thing I should note, is I could literally be slowly regaining my orgasm/pleasure back due to my drastic reduction of porn use, and falling in love and getting married.

As I'm sure many of you know with EA. It's a bloody mystery! I've had it for so long, and tried so many different things, I gave up on it and rarely think about it anymore. So I hope the fibre does something and it can be replicated. But time will tell us if this is just another false hope.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2017, 01:50:42 PM by muffslayer »

muffslayer

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Just doing some quick research, both these fibers are said to act as prebiotics:

Inulin (Fructo-Oligosaccharide (FOS))
VitaFiber (Isomalto-oligosaccharide (IMO))

Searching the net, I cound this:

Prebiotics (FOS, GOS) given to rats lead to increased levels of BDNF & NMDA receptor subunits in the hippocampus

http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/68440-prebiotic-feeding-elevates-hippocampal-bdnf/

"Our data therefore provide a sound basis to further investigate the utility of prebiotics in the maintenance of brain health and adjunctive treatment of neuropsychiatric disorders."


I think I'll start taking a lot of Inulin and Vitafiber as they're sweet and easy to consume. I should be able to take them several times a day if I only do those 2 and avoid the other 3.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2017, 01:50:13 PM by muffslayer »

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I hope you'll both report your results here.

muffslayer

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Hey, it was just me posting, not 2 people. I will post my results here, good or bad, but only after a week or two.

The plan is to build up my stores or whatever by taking a lot of these 2 fibers over time, and then masturbate.

When I google nmda orgasm, I stumbled upon this:

https://drugs-forum.com/threads/dxm-use-and-intense-orgasms.207416/


DXM use and intense orgasms?

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SWIM is a female that occasionally enjoys recreational use of DXM. After awhile it became apparent to SWIM that a couple of days after dosing SWIM could achieve the most spectacular orgasms of her life, sometimes multiple.

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DXM is an NMDA antagonist. NMDA antagonists have been scientifically shown to be able to reverse tolerance, have antiaddictive effects, and even to prevent the development of tolerance when administered with other drugs. It also increases the concentration of Dopamine in the brain by blocking PCP-2 receptors.


I thought there might be a connection there, as FOS has been proven to increase "levels of BDNF & NMDA receptor subunits in the hippocampus" in rats. But then after googling "antagonist", it means inhibit. So DXM inhibit NMDA, so the opposite of what the fiber does.

However she does say "after awhile it became apparent to SWIM that a couple of days after dosing". So this might make sense, as the brain tries to rebalance itself out from the suppression of NMDA, by producing more NMDA or more NMDA receptors or something.

It happens with most things in the body, from what I understand. For example bodybuilding take aromotase inhibitors to restart their testosterone production. This works because the body usually makes estrogen from testosterone, and when it senses the estrogen is low, it produces more testosterone to try and boost production. I've also read, if you give people dopamine inhibitors for a long time, their brain creates more dopamine receptors to try and counter balance. It's the rebound effect.

So if DXM is a NMDA antagonist, then it's suppressing NMDA for a few days or whatever, so her brain starts to compensate by increasing NMDA receptors or trying to increase NMDA production. Once the DXM suppressing effect has worn off and stops suppressing her NMDA in the brain, she should enjoy a rebound effect of the increased NMDA or NMDA receptors in her brain for a little while.

If this is the case why she has the most intense orgasms of her life, and FOS (that fiber) can increase "levels of BDNF & NMDA receptor subunits in the hippocampus" in rats. If FOS does the same in humans, then it might be a winner for EA.

That's the NMDA theory of all this anyway.
« Last Edit: May 07, 2017, 02:54:56 AM by muffslayer »

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http://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/73159-signs-and-symptoms-of-low-nmda-activity-n-methyl-d-aspartate/

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NMDA can also enhance GABA release and releases pregnenolone and IGF-1; which can have pro-anabolic effects altogether, AND, NMDA acts as a major gonadotropic signaler, where it can massively increase testosterone and other sex hormones.

This is interesting. I remember years ago on another popular health site, that a guy started a thread on Ejaculatory Anhedonia. It became a huge mega thread, and he was finally able to cure himself by taking GABA (didn't work for me though).

What is also interesting about the above passage is it enhances the release of pregnenolone. I remember when I took pregnenolone, I would ejaculate very fast, and my penis head did become more sensitive and pleasurable. I thought pregnenolone could have been the key for me at one point, but I couldn't take it anymore because it worsened my peyronies disease.

But from the above passage, it's saying NDMA enhances GABA, pregenolone, and testosterone as well as other sex hormones. So NMDA seems like an all rounder for influencing sexual function it sounds like.

muffslayer

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I forgot to mention, a couple of days earlier, I did take 2 Night Nurse, and an anti histamine to help me sleep and unblock my nose, just in case that had anything to do with my orgasm.

Now here is a great site on the benefits of increasing NDMA: https://area1255.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/how-to-upregulate-nmda-receptors-and.html

Treatment of OCD; Obsessive-Compulsive-Disorder (!) (!)


This actually relates to me, as I have a mild form of this (not officially diagnosed, but definitely apparent). Everyday when I leave the house and get in the car, I wonder if I locked my house door, and most of the time get out and recheck (it's been locked every time). Also when fulfilling orders online, I recheck a lot of things too many times when once is enough. My OCD has been slightly getting worse lately, but maybe it's just a connection of the bigger puzzle for me. Maybe I have had low NMDA for many years which has affected my orgasm and caused mild OCD. I do remember suffering from this OCD problem slightly all the way back when I was 18, I remember it coming up, as I kept checking if the front door was locked when leaving for college. I lost my orgasm when I was 16, and I'm not sure if I was OCD before then, so maybe there was connection between the 2 happening around at the same time. Orgasm when first, then OCD began to creep in.

Cause even though I take supplements regularly (Magnesium, Zinc, Vitamin E), and I am considered "healthy" in all senses of the term (except for being overweight). I still suffer from mild OCD. So really, my brain isn't fully balanced/healthy, if I suffer from OCD, hence there's always been an underlying problem I have yet to correct, and this could be low NDMA perhaps?

Who knows, I've tried 100's of different types of supplements over the years, I mean I use to buy everything after reading about health benefits, and most of the time it was an attempt to fix this orgasm problem. This was probably the OCD in me, buying so many supplements. But the reason I stick to a very few these days, is they work the best, while the others really did jack shit, especially in the long term. So I try not to put too much faith in supplements. But also I guess my current stack has never been able to solve the underlying problem with my brain (OCD/no orgasm).

Hopefully feeding my guy bacteria will bring a myriad of benefits.

BTW I forgot to mention, another one of my supplements that had a profound noticeable effect on my health, was Jarrow's Probiotics. It helped in so many ways, it got rid of Jock Itch which I developed in 2015, and my digestive health improved. This was one of my staples, but I had to stop taking it because I developed brain fog with it for some reason.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Jarrow-Formulas-Jarro-Dophilus-Eps-Caps-x/dp/B0013OUKTS

The 2 fibers which this whole thread is concerning are called pre biotics. Meaning they don't contain any bacteria like probiotics, but they feed your current bacteria in your gut to help it grow. It's cheaper, and hopefully long term.


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BTW, I just read the whole list of what NMDA is meant to help with, and boy does this look promising:

Treatment of OCD; Obsessive-Compulsive-Disorder (!) (!)
Treatment of Schizophrenia, and psychotic symptoms induced by low glutamate levels(!) (!).
Regulating dopamine, and potentiating hypothalamic activity - helping to treat infertility, low libido and sexual dysfunctions in both men and women(!)  (!) (!).
Increased fear-learning and long-term consolidation of fear-memory, including fear extinction ; thus adapting to fears and learning to face them better, and more naturally (!) (!).
Decreased anxiety and incidences of depression in some individuals.
Less paranoia, and increased sociability due to increased oxytocin by the glutamate NMDA-channel opening and subsequent interactions between calcium channels and nitric oxide.
Increased vasodilation and workout performance, enhanced nitric oxide levels.(!) (!)
Alleviation of long-term memory issues and active memory disruption.(!) (!)
Restoration of ejaculation process in men(!).


If you go on the site, you can click on the (!) which will link you to the study.

muffslayer

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Just posting this for my reference:

https://www.amazon.com/Isomalto-oligosaccharides-prebiotics-metabolism-lactobacilli-bifidobacteria/dp/3845477997

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Isomalto-oligosaccharides (IMO) with ?(1?6) and ?(1?4) glucosidic linkages are produced by enzymatic conversion of starch. Isomalto-oligosaccharides are partially digested in the intestine. It was the aim of this study to investigate IMO metabolism by lactobacilli and bifidobacteria and to determine the effect of IMO diet on intestinal microbiota in a rodent model and a rodent model for inflammatory bowel disease (IBD). Different strains of bifidobacteria and lactobacilli were assessed for carbohydrates metabolism in vitro. Isomalto-oligosaccharides selectively stimulated lactobacilli in rats compared to those on control or inulin diet. The potential health benefit of IMO was evaluated in a rodent model for IBD and compared to fructo-oligosaccharides (FOS) or control diet. The Lactobacillus group and bifidobacteria numbers were increased significantly in the fecal samples of rats fed IMO or FOS diet respectively. IMO and FOS diets showed a unique effect on intestinal microbiota. Inflammation was significantly decreased in the rats fed IMO or FOS diet compared to the rats fed control diet.

This is good because these are the 2 fibers I settled for as my prebiotics experiment, and they're both sweet and easy to consume.
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Hey muffslayer! I noticed you mentioned night nurse, this contains DXM. It's used as a cough suppressant I think.

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I think continue on and if you still notice a discernible benefit after 6 months you are onto something.

muffslayer

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Hey guys, I never did start using these fibers regularly, in fact I stopped them all together. This is because I had my wedding coming up, stuff to sort out, and these fibers in large doses gave me diarrhea. Also I totally forgot about them and all the research in this thread.

Anyway I'm going to try and take these regularly before bed again.

I saw a new thread in the I'm Cured section, about how antibiotics really helped increase orgasm for some people. This may be related to these prebiotic fibers, because they are meant to help increase good bacteria, which helps reduce bad bacteria.

Currently my orgasms are 0 again, so we'll see.

But I'll try and take:

Inulin (Fructo-Oligosaccharide (FOS))
VitaFiber (Isomalto-oligosaccharide (IMO))

Before bed everyday.

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muffslayer
please get back to us with an update. the fact that you stopped taking it and are back to zero rating, is interesting.
my sacrocranial therapist said about the healthy gut thing being critical to the health of nerve endings.
oh and congrats on the wedding btw !.

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Try Adderall if you can get it from doctor.  I went to the doctor and was straight up.  I happened to get it from someone I know and tried it and I noticed the sensation was really good.  So I told the doctor this and I have no addiction tendencys or anything so a low dose of Adderall he put me on.  He first made me try Wellbutrin and that didn't work.  I had some success with Ritalin but the Adderall is the best.  It increases dopamine which is pleasure chemical.  Cant hurt to try and ask the doctor.  Just be upfront even say your problem with no orgasm.   If you are a responsible person and don't abuse things like this it will be good for you.  Worked for me.  I don't always have an amazing orgasm but the pleasure is always really good building up.  Most of the time now I have a fairly enjoyable orgasm. Build up to ejaculating is always very good.