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Re: Cured after 20 years of little or no pleassure from ejaculation
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2016, 12:50:57 PM »
Unfortunately, we do not treat our problem
I'll try ritalin

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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2016, 04:24:16 AM »
A loss of JUST sexual pleasure fits into the classic EA diagnosis.  A loss of other sensations along the sexual one is different. That could fall into general anhedonia, flat-line emotion or blunted syndromes, schizoid and some forms of depression. These groups also frequently report something similar to EA along with these symptoms. Theres a very small chance of a neuro diseases present like MS.

Theres also my theory that EA may progress [is the initiator] to these co morbid conditions to form a more dangerous syndrome. So, this way theres no real SSRI / PSSD, the drugs did not take away the persons [dopamine] personality, Rather its a psychotic reaction to a sexual issue in some people. This may also explain the issues in the penis enlargement community who are NON-ssri users who develop PSSD like symptoms.

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« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2016, 01:11:32 AM »

There's limits to what a urologist is going to know. There is no harm in finding another dermatologist, the one that diagnosed me specialised in tropical diseases, although LC is not a tropical disease it is relatively common in men that have not been circumsised.

You may want to find a uro-nurologist, as they should have a better understanding of what diagnostic tests to try out. In fairness I got my referral to see the dermatologist in tropical diseases through a uro-neurologist. All the urologists I have seen have been less than useful.

Can you explain how the sensation you felt in other parts of your body has changed ?

I can't find much information about doctors who could help. I either selected some of them almost randomly, or were referred from one to others. Some made tests but found nothing out of the ordinary... And after the tests came out as normal, they didn't really know what else to do... So they discharged me.

I've insisted on them, asking them to mention my case to others in the medical community. I don't have contacts, they do. I've told them that I'm not a single case, there are others like me but we can't do much on our own. Sometimes this is even counterproductive because, how are we going to know more than doctors?  As I said, I've also been to a experienced psychologist and I think she didn't even understand what I told her.

The neurologist I mentioned is one of the few who at least showed interest in listening to me. His reaction was very different from other doctors. He even made me some quick suggestions, but it wasn't his consultation (he was just around as coordinator). The last time I went to the neurologist, I asked for him to at least see me next time. I don't know when that will happen (I'm expecting to be scheduled).

My nickname isn't chosen randomly. I'm lacking the sensation, nothing else... At least I feel that way. I think the sense of touch manages a lot of sensations simultaneously: temperature, pressure, itching, pain, pleasure... I now no longer feel pleasure like I did, and that also affects my other sensations because they're probably mixed together somehow. I don't know if this makes any sense to you...

Define pleasure ? I can't remember ever feeling much pleasure in general life because I've always felt held back sexually due to having a tight foreskin (LC diagnosis) + being held back socially due to having exfolative chelitits, which has a holocaust like effect on my social life. I would not really expect myself not to have developed some complexities along the way in dealing with these issues. I live in a perpetual cycle of worrying about my apperance due to the EC, and being anxious about getting to know a woman for fear of embarrassment concerning EA and apperance of my penis. I've fallen well short of what and who I want to be as a person, one thing I know how to do and have learned to do very well is suffer emotionally/intellectually and in every little way, and hide it. I push away emotional help from my family because it is far to difficult to cope with other peoples objections and opinions concerning my health issues. I try to listen more but it feels as though the only solution would be the elimination of these problems which I'm constantly battling. They never get resolved and so I feel an unresolved person. I am hoping the application of topical steroid to the penis to treat the LC will result in a slight increase/regeneration of lost sensitivity and orgasm. Even if I still have lost most of what I once felt, an improvement would be most welcome. At the same time I am attempting to treat my EC with topical steroids ointment as well, so I have a cream for my knob and a cream for my lips haha.

I have so lost touch with my sense of self I don't think I can touch on answering your question. It would be impossible to untangle what is physical and what is percieved. What's real and what isn't. I suppose to say that I am very unhappy almost all of the time and have been my entire adult life, would be an accurate assessment.

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« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2016, 04:51:31 PM »
I have suffered this condition for a pretty long time. I have also tried several medications to no avail. It seems there is consistent evidence that Adderall could help me, but my challenge is that I live outside the US and the drug is not available in my country. I need advice on how I can access this Medicine outside of US.

Thanks.

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« Reply #34 on: August 04, 2016, 07:59:15 PM »
I would just define pleasure as that ahhh feeling where your body feels warm and get some pleasure goosebumps.  You feel a good sensation run through you and you don't want that feeling to end.  I think that's a decent description of pleasure during sex.  I just think when I feel the pleasure that ahh that is so good and I don't want it to stop. 

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« Reply #35 on: August 07, 2016, 08:56:37 AM »
If you generally don't feel much pleasure in life, if you're always suffering emotionally or intellectually, those are aspects you should try to deal with, because your mental wellbeing will influence other aspects of your life. Life must not be a continuous suffering experience.

In fact, there are different kinds of pleasure in life. I'm referring to physical sexual pleasure like 'the ahhh feeling' searchingforcure11 is describing. This is a sensation like many others us humans can feel, but it might be difficult to describe if you've never felt it.

Let's see an example with pain: When something heavy falls on your toe, the nerves will communicate the event to your brain. The brain will process it and send signals back to your foot so that you take it away and protect yourself. Usually you will feel first a loud sharp pain, and then a longer less intense pain will remain on the damaged area. Those are signals sent through the nervous system.

I think the situation is similar with pleasure. I'm copying / pasting some of my words from my previous paragraph on purpuse: When the erogenous zones on your body are stimulated, the nerves will communicate the event to your brain. The brain will process it and send signals back to your erogenous zones. Usually this will result in you feeling pleasure.

As I've said on other post, that 'ahhh feeling' is present since the beginning of sexual intercourse or masturbation. It is an electric-like sensation that feels very good on the stimulated areas. It usually drives you to continue, and mixes with the euphoria of the sexual act, watching your partner feel good also, etc. Probably your brain or glands are releasing chemical substances that contribute to the pleasure. I mean, pleasure is not only about orgasm. But when orgasm comes, it is usually a burst of more intense pleasure. Us men usually feel a release and then have a refractory period that makes it difficult for us to repeat sex until after some time has elapsed.

In my case it's difficult I can feel anything from ejaculation, because I'm lacking all the previous 'ahhh feeling' during intercourse. The pleasure sensation is very limited for me in this area, and I wonder why I still have erections, get excited and ejaculate. I'm having a few supplements suggested in this group and I'm trying to improve my general health. This issue sucks enough on itself, better try not to mix it with others.

Please excuse my English... I'm trying my best but many times I can't find the words.

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« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2016, 05:58:21 AM »
If you generally don't feel much pleasure in life, if you're always suffering emotionally or intellectually, those are aspects you should try to deal with, because your mental wellbeing will influence other aspects of your life. Life must not be a continuous suffering experience.

In fact, there are different kinds of pleasure in life. I'm referring to physical sexual pleasure like 'the ahhh feeling' searchingforcure11 is describing. This is a sensation like many others us humans can feel, but it might be difficult to describe if you've never felt it.

Let's see an example with pain: When something heavy falls on your toe, the nerves will communicate the event to your brain. The brain will process it and send signals back to your foot so that you take it away and protect yourself. Usually you will feel first a loud sharp pain, and then a longer less intense pain will remain on the damaged area. Those are signals sent through the nervous system.

I think the situation is similar with pleasure. I'm copying / pasting some of my words from my previous paragraph on purpuse: When the erogenous zones on your body are stimulated, the nerves will communicate the event to your brain. The brain will process it and send signals back to your erogenous zones. Usually this will result in you feeling pleasure.

As I've said on other post, that 'ahhh feeling' is present since the beginning of sexual intercourse or masturbation. It is an electric-like sensation that feels very good on the stimulated areas. It usually drives you to continue, and mixes with the euphoria of the sexual act, watching your partner feel good also, etc. Probably your brain or glands are releasing chemical substances that contribute to the pleasure. I mean, pleasure is not only about orgasm. But when orgasm comes, it is usually a burst of more intense pleasure. Us men usually feel a release and then have a refractory period that makes it difficult for us to repeat sex until after some time has elapsed.

In my case it's difficult I can feel anything from ejaculation, because I'm lacking all the previous 'ahhh feeling' during intercourse. The pleasure sensation is very limited for me in this area, and I wonder why I still have erections, get excited and ejaculate. I'm having a few supplements suggested in this group and I'm trying to improve my general health. This issue sucks enough on itself, better try not to mix it with others.

Please excuse my English... I'm trying my best but many times I can't find the words.

If I ceased managing then I would take my life, so to be alive day after day is to manage the problem which never goes away, so I suffer. Life must not be continuous suffering no but I see this condition as teaching nothing other than that. It saps every mental and emotional focus one has and really the only tools available are to ignore the problem, pretend it doesn't exist, take happy pills that destroy libido and sexual pleasure further. I feel as though society has developed a one size fits all answer to these sort of problems, in as such that rather than spend resources investigating EC, money is funnelled into developing drugs that help a person feel less bad about having it, that's if the condition even gets acknowledged at all. It's depressing how eager the mental health profession is at throwing pills at people.

Like you, for me it's related to stimulation prior to orgasm, and the better the sensation the stronger the orgasms tend to be. I notice sometimes tiny windows of opportunity where sensation is ramped up enough for me to get a reasonably satisfying release from orgasm but I've no idea what is causing this. Eating hormone laden food can help, exercise can help, sometimes they don't.

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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2016, 10:50:16 PM »
I went through this for at least 7 years and I just did other things and enjoyed hobbies and stuff.  I would always masterbate but it was less often maybe 2 or 3 times a week.  Now its almost every day.  But I just said to myself it is what it is I can only try and try new things and just told myself not to let it bother me that there is other enjoyable things to do in life.  I played sports and did fun things that I enjoyed.  I remember though when I felt sensation occasionally that I would make sure to not wait and make sure I tried to get myself off right then.  I tried to take advantage of it when I felt very sensitive down there to do it right then.  It does seem that the better the sensation the more likely to have an orgasm.  It seems awful but really there is so many things in life to do and enjoy that sex not being great is not the end of the world.  hobbies and just relaxing after a long day and being comfortable on the couch or in bed is a good feeling also.  I would just keep trying things and keep trying to fix it and don't let it get u down.  If you can take Adderall or get it somehow I would try the best to try to get it.  In small doses I have never had any issues.  If I skip a day taking it the only thing I noticed is my sleep is not as good.  I tend to just not have a deep sleep and toss and turn a lot.  So I just make sure some days I might take half the dose but to not totally take nothing.  It is a stimulant so it could keep you awake so sometimes I like to take less to catch up on my sleep.  The irony is when you take nothing at all you don't seem to sleep well.  Anyway good luck

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« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2016, 05:26:55 AM »
I went through this for at least 7 years and I just did other things and enjoyed hobbies and stuff.  I would always masterbate but it was less often maybe 2 or 3 times a week.  Now its almost every day.  But I just said to myself it is what it is I can only try and try new things and just told myself not to let it bother me that there is other enjoyable things to do in life.  I played sports and did fun things that I enjoyed.  I remember though when I felt sensation occasionally that I would make sure to not wait and make sure I tried to get myself off right then.  I tried to take advantage of it when I felt very sensitive down there to do it right then.  It does seem that the better the sensation the more likely to have an orgasm.  It seems awful but really there is so many things in life to do and enjoy that sex not being great is not the end of the world.  hobbies and just relaxing after a long day and being comfortable on the couch or in bed is a good feeling also.  I would just keep trying things and keep trying to fix it and don't let it get u down.  If you can take Adderall or get it somehow I would try the best to try to get it.  In small doses I have never had any issues.  If I skip a day taking it the only thing I noticed is my sleep is not as good.  I tend to just not have a deep sleep and toss and turn a lot.  So I just make sure some days I might take half the dose but to not totally take nothing.  It is a stimulant so it could keep you awake so sometimes I like to take less to catch up on my sleep.  The irony is when you take nothing at all you don't seem to sleep well.  Anyway good luck

Yes this is true, I went travelling for 8 days and got back this week and my mind was thankful for the change and not focusing on this problem. Still though even there I feel without adequate sexual release I am not complete and to make matters worse I am a lot more physically active when I travel which generally results in a more muted orgasm. This may give credence to the pelvic tension theory. My best orgasms are when I am doing nothing physical/don't leave home for a few days just sitting around. I sense as though if this is a tension/imbalance issue it is going to take more than turning on/off relaxation, it's going to involve mindful changes in posture and potentially massaging areas which are extremely tort. My physio appointment is on the 9th.

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« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2016, 08:57:57 AM »
I went through this for at least 7 years and I just did other things and enjoyed hobbies and stuff.  I would always masterbate but it was less often maybe 2 or 3 times a week.  Now its almost every day.  But I just said to myself it is what it is I can only try and try new things and just told myself not to let it bother me that there is other enjoyable things to do in life.  I played sports and did fun things that I enjoyed.  I remember though when I felt sensation occasionally that I would make sure to not wait and make sure I tried to get myself off right then.  I tried to take advantage of it when I felt very sensitive down there to do it right then.  It does seem that the better the sensation the more likely to have an orgasm.  It seems awful but really there is so many things in life to do and enjoy that sex not being great is not the end of the world.  hobbies and just relaxing after a long day and being comfortable on the couch or in bed is a good feeling also.  I would just keep trying things and keep trying to fix it and don't let it get u down.  If you can take Adderall or get it somehow I would try the best to try to get it.  In small doses I have never had any issues.  If I skip a day taking it the only thing I noticed is my sleep is not as good.  I tend to just not have a deep sleep and toss and turn a lot.  So I just make sure some days I might take half the dose but to not totally take nothing.  It is a stimulant so it could keep you awake so sometimes I like to take less to catch up on my sleep.  The irony is when you take nothing at all you don't seem to sleep well.  Anyway good luck

Yes this is true, I went travelling for 8 days and got back this week and my mind was thankful for the change and not focusing on this problem. Still though even there I feel without adequate sexual release I am not complete and to make matters worse I am a lot more physically active when I travel which generally results in a more muted orgasm. This may give credence to the pelvic tension theory. My best orgasms are when I am doing nothing physical/don't leave home for a few days just sitting around. I sense as though if this is a tension/imbalance issue it is going to take more than turning on/off relaxation, it's going to involve mindful changes in posture and potentially massaging areas which are extremely tort. My physio appointment is on the 9th.
good luck with the physio. please report back!

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« Reply #40 on: September 29, 2016, 07:16:05 AM »
latest report on the search for a physio specialising in the male pelvic floor. I have found such a guy here in UK who I have now seen twice. his examinations have been thorough ( intimate and rather sore!) and included an internal search ( yes, there!) for pain sources and muscle tension. his prognosis makes a lot of sense and he has explained in plain English what he is doing and why. as well as releasing my buttock and back muscles to start with, he has identified areas of weakness and/or tension on which to work. obviously not an overnight cure but if the cause is indeed pelvic floor tension, this has been building up for a long long time and is going to take some effort to put right.
I am still working with a psychotherapist on issues such as general anxiety and depression. I believe the cure is a combination of factors rather than a magic bullet .

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« Reply #41 on: September 29, 2016, 10:07:36 AM »
Hi fireman and everyone.

Well I've had my second physio appointment this week as well.

I have actually been doing pelvic floor exercises for the last (almost 3 weeks) many of these are designed to stretch the lower body muscles in and around the legs as well as the pelvis as it's all connected. Many of the exercises were uncomfortable to being with.

Fireman, I also have recently had the internal test and stretching. The very knowledgable and helpful physio I saw reported extreme tension, literally a wall of muscle as what Ralding alluded to in his description. I found it uncomfortable initially but as the physcio gradually stretched things out things have become a little looser.

The same day I masturbated twice prior to the appointment and felt sensations mimicking that I had prior to the onset of EA.

It has become apparently clear that the entire sling of muscles in that region are completely bound to the point where there are no contractions during orgasm. The muscles are basically spasmodic and have caused the nerves running through them to misfire, they have ceased to contract and relax properly, they are in a constant state of tension.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=male+pelvis+and+nerves&biw=1920&bih=920&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiDjrG7hLXPAhUhJ8AKHQ82B48Q_AUIBigB#imgrc=356nEwBxaa0QUM%3A

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I was shocked to find out the nerves (such as the pudendal and others) responsible for functionality and sensation run through this region. So it is an area ignored at our peril. The physio said I was extremely tight, she was able to feel the exact state of things with her finger - just a wall of ropey/tense/hard muscle. She asked me to contract and release my anus while she was in there, which gave me a better idea of the sort of tightness I am dealing with.

On the same day I was massaged (this did not take longer than 10minutes) I experienced heightened euphoria during stimulation and orgasm to the point where I was quite emotional. I experienced obvious contractions (pulses) from the area. As Ralding alluded to we are indeed dealing with a wall of muscle tension which short circuits the entire sexual feedback cycle from start to finish. I noticed erections remained without stimulation also which I found shocking. Often I will cease stimulation and then browse through porn only to then go back to stimulation having gone soft. On this occasion I remained worryingly hard and vascularity of the penis appeared more evident. Nerves appeared large and more pronounced. Evidently the massage allowed blood flow to improve. Erections were bigger and sensation improved.

Besides all of this I practice mindful release of the pelvic floor muscles on a daily basis. It is hard because the pelvis is involved in movement of our bodies, but I realise that my pelvic floor muscles were in a constant state of contraction, and I need to be constantly mindful to release the pelvic floor (let it drop) when I am motionless or just standing. I relate entirely to Ralding when he says he needs to be careful not to be tensed up, because it is very easy thing to do after years of holding tension in this area.

So with these combined efforts I am seeing progress.

Deep down I know it would take a hands on massage inside the anus to achieve the next step, because there is only so much you can do from outside.

I do believe there is more to do though.

 Fireman, also I can identify a causal link between my social anxiety and the development of this problem. My recent travelling has allowed work in this area so my progress is going much better now. Being out on my feet active gave me the boost I needed, not just because sitting all day is bad for our pelvis, but also because it gave me the opprtunity to battle anxiety and build confidence. My stretching exercises only take 15-30minutes per day. Usually I do them in the morning. I can post them if anyone wants to know.
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« Reply #42 on: September 30, 2016, 07:11:52 AM »
Hi Rocket
Yes I would be interested in reading your relaxation exercises and comparing with those prescribed to me. where are you from - uk?

my physio has suggested I try using an internal massager for self help at home. if it helps, I will try anything. I'm finding it very hard isolating and relaxing the individual groups of muscles - I guess because they are all been tight for such a long time. he did tell me that I had loosened internally between my first and second appointments. he was a bit more firm with his examination second time and definitely found some sore spots, in fact nearly triggered an attack of proctalgia from which I also suffer .  but I regret to say I haven't seen any improvement in sensation. yet.

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« Reply #43 on: September 30, 2016, 11:58:26 AM »
UK yes.

My physcio actually said the opposite, the theory being that it is difficult to feel the muscles without skin on skin contact. In otherwords she could feel how tight my anal muscles were but this would not be achievable with a tool. The aneros helix Ralding describes I actually purchased and used a few times but I drew a blank and I don't blame myself for this, as basically stuffing something in there is not going to help, not at least until the area is stretched a little first. The other option is to use ones own finger but this is difficult, not impossible.

Like you I have loosened from just one appointment. I know this because in the shower I will often feel around the area and I noticed the opening and just inside is wider (basically she widened my arsehole amongst other internal stretching). I feel quite comfortable talking about all this now as I have basically lost any dignity lol with the amount of people I have had examine my penis there is little left I feel shame or embarassment about.

Have you noticed your pelvic sling muscles contracting during orgasm ? I have. I believe this is where the real pleasure comes from.

Ditto what I feel in terms of stimulation is different in a good way, sensation is still not improving in any meangingful way don't get me wrong. Certainly a change in erections though, I remain harder for longer and most reassuring to me is that I am bigger when normally flaccid and not aroused. This is a good indication the penis is recieving better blood flow.

I would like to hope your proctalgia dissipates as the muscles are stretched out and apart giving the nerves more room.

Could you perhaps PM me with what you have in terms of exercies or I could start a new thread with mine and you could respond there ?

p.s. any change for you from orgasm ?
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« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2016, 08:02:53 AM »
Hey gang
Just wanted to respond as well.  Sorry been so busy at work I haven't had much time to respond.  Well on Monday will be my 4th appointment with a pelvic physio therapist.  Well last time had an outer massage and after I got home I ejaculated and notice like rocket that my penis felt a lot more "normal" the closest it's been since this started!  Sensation is still no better but a week before I saw the physio I had a genuine orgasim after getting a bj

I will have a lot of time starting in November to concentrate on the exercises etc.  Glad you lads are seeing progress as well
Hope we all pull through!!!  Take care