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Title: I think I can state that I've found a "cure"
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 07, 2011, 10:59:37 PM
I think I can say with some accuracy that fresh royal jelly makes me have full blown orgasms as I
hadn't had in more than 10 years...
It makes me horny and makes me desire people that I would otherwise find so unattractive, haha.
I am back to sexual life, I can say.

And probably without fresh royal jelly I would be still affected by S. Anhedonia.

I take Gaba occasionally, but I think the jelly alone is giving me the most wonderful cums I have
ever had since I began not having orgasms, 10 years ago, it's a miracle, an incredible miracle.

Of course I was trying out so many different things, none of which had worked, that if there
was a solution I would eventually find it, however skeptic I had become.

Update as Feb/12/2017 (royal jelly is no longer working for me, it's been a few years that I stopped
trying to see if it might work again.)
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: Saul on May 08, 2011, 03:37:07 AM
good news, well done. i may grab some royal jelly and try it out for myself.
just as a point of interest, have you tried royal jelly when it's not fresh?
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 08, 2011, 11:35:36 AM
only fresh royal jelly works.

right now i'm going on my second masturbation spree, i just can't get enough.

i'm on my 3rd unit. it has to be frozen. the more you take, the better the results.
though it's best to take little due to the price. little makes good effect too.

1st or 2nd week you'll be like a vulcan, crazy to fuck or to be fucked.

I swear i can't believe how horny this makes me, i started to have the hots
for people who i found so dull before.

I have the craziest fantasies, with just anyone who is reasonably hot now.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 08, 2011, 11:39:42 AM
i've been using it for almost 5 months now, and the intensity has never decreased, unlike with the other stuff, such as gaba.

Nothing i had tried had given me as good orgasms as this.

But maybe my situation is different from others, i had been unable to cum properly for more than 10 years
i think, and all because of finasteride, minoxidil, ssri's, and other bad stuff i had used.

I tend to think jelly is so powerful that it even reduces the effect of the anti-orgasm products.
I had almost dried up my pool of options, before coming across jelly as the advice of a nymphomaniac friend.

Update as of Feb/2017: wow, I was so upbeat about this, and it wasn't the definitive cure I was looking for.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 08, 2011, 11:52:13 AM
One thing that i noticed that i didn't have when i was unable to have orgasms.
My penis wouldn't exude any odor at all, no penis smell.
Now it does, lots and lots...and that's the sign i can fully cum again.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: manny on May 08, 2011, 01:11:20 PM
Where do you get your royal jelly from?
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: researcher on May 08, 2011, 01:59:42 PM
interesting... positive news thats awesome! I tried royal jelly in pill form by now and I diddnt really notice anything. maybe ill take it back and try the fresh stuff. what do you use?

thank you for sharing this. im very happy that you are feeling better! 
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: researcher on May 08, 2011, 02:03:29 PM
Anti-ageing effect of Royal Jelly boosts testosterone

http://www.ergo-log.com/royaljellyantiageing.html (http://www.ergo-log.com/royaljellyantiageing.html)

Royal Jelly rejuvenates pituitary: animal study

http://www.ergo-log.com/royaljellyhypofyse.html (http://www.ergo-log.com/royaljellyhypofyse.html)
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on May 08, 2011, 06:40:09 PM
Royal Jelly rejuvenates pituitary: animal study

http://www.ergo-log.com/royaljellyhypofyse.html (http://www.ergo-log.com/royaljellyhypofyse.html)
I like this one, and I like the site. One thing the article hinted at "rejuvenates pituitary", was better confirmed in another study that actually measured pituitary weight.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19202272

And the longevity of the Queen Bee is interesting too. I recommend anyone interested go to the royal jelly article on wikipedia.
Quote
emale larva destined to become a queen is fed large quantities of royal jelly that triggers a cascade of molecular events resulting in queen development.[3] It has been shown that this phenomenon is mediated by an epigenetic modification of DNA known as CpG methylation.[6] Silencing the expression of an enzyme that methylates DNA in newly hatched larvae led to a royal jelly-like effect on the larval developmental trajectory; the majority of individuals with reduced DNA methylation levels emerged as queens with fully developed ovaries. This finding suggests that DNA methylation in honey bees allows the expression of epigenetic information to be differentially altered by nutritional input.

A hot theory over at the post propecia sexual dysfunction site is that their problems are caused by epigenetic changes, and they're busy looking into demethylizing agents. Limiting the enzyme that methylizes DNA may work just as well.

The funny thing was, just yesterday I had a strange bee pollen incident. I whip up a tablespoon of flax seed and a teaspoon of bee pollen to throw on my eggs in the morning. I grind it up in a mini coffee grinder. Well, a coating of the leftovers had built up on the bottom of the grinder, and I wiped it out and put it on my eggs. The rest of the day I was wondering - why the hell am I feeling so horny?

Anyway, pretty dang interesting, particularly with the hyper sexualization and longevity a queen bee has relative to worker bees.

Cheap stuff, available over the counter. Can't go wrong. (Well, you can if you are allergic. Apparently some people have bad reactions.)

That first site had an article on Onion Juice increasing LH, FSH, and T. Seems like an interesting place to look around. Thanks.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on May 08, 2011, 06:46:49 PM
i've been using it for almost 5 months now, and the intensity has never decreased, like with the other stuff, such as gaba.
Ok, so give us the details.
What brand are you buying?
What dose are you taking?
How long after taking it until it worked?
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: researcher on May 08, 2011, 10:15:16 PM

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Ok, so give us the details.
What brand are you buying?
What dose are you taking?
How long after taking it until it worked?

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yes, what he said.

Some more links...
I liked this one
http://www.ergo-log.com/royaljelly.html (http://www.ergo-log.com/royaljelly.html)

http://www.ergo-log.com/royaljelly2.html (http://www.ergo-log.com/royaljelly2.html)

definitely gonna try this and report my findings. Ill try anything! I am the human guinea pig. lol

I have heard nothing but positive things about royal jelly so its worth a shot.



Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: researcher on May 08, 2011, 10:20:19 PM

i had almost dried up my pool of options, before coming across jelly as the advice of a nymphomaniac friend.

thank god for your nymphomaniac friend! that made me laugh. thanks for sharing your findings. I hope it helps others.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 09, 2011, 07:19:41 PM
I hope it helps others too.

yes, I have this nymphomaniac type of friend, and it's funny, cause he started his sexual life so late, over 40 yo.

I have had 3 packs of fresh royal jelly, 2 in toronto, and 1 in brazil, where i met this friend who advised me to take fresh royal jelly.
i had great cums in brazil, but i thought it was cause of the gaba, which i had been taking too, though gaba is definitely not the definitive answer.

with royal jelly, if you have a good night's sleep, in order for the body to create enough growth hormone, the hornyness can be even better, though i've noticed lots of hornyness in the absence of long sleep hours too.

anyway, the fact is i became so horny that i would go to pornotube almost 3 times a day, and my cums would be 10/10 most of the times.

the bodies are so gorgeous, before jelly i used to be extremely picky, now i started to prefer pretty over rough.
before being able to orgasm, i would prefer dark over light skinned, now, i'm back to light skin.

it's crazy. i swear this gave me the best orgasms i have had in like 10 years (i think my orgasms disappeared on me around 27yo.)

before jelly there was nothing at all capable of giving me orgasms to match these that jelly gives me, no kidding.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 09, 2011, 07:27:50 PM
i purchased two fresh royal jelly packs from a natural products shop.

it's frozen and costs about 20 dollars.

you can take it at night. the more the better, i think 1 week is good enough to see some results.

don't be on any medications that can block your sexual drives, have some good sleep.

watch a porn after 1 week and see how different it is.

it has worked for me, i hope it helps others too.

this was the single most incredible thing i ever used after an endless list of pure crap
that made me hopeless.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on May 09, 2011, 10:56:47 PM
i purchased two fresh royal jelly packs from a natural products shop.

it's frozen and costs about 20 dollars.

you can take it at night. the more the better, i think 1 week is good enough to see some results.
Can you be a bit more specific? Give us a web site link to the product? Tell us how much you took? If you bought it locally, could you tell us the brand?
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: researcher on May 10, 2011, 12:05:19 AM
got some royal jelly by NOW today....it doesn't say fresh.... its just not the pill form. like 20 bucks. took a teaspoon in the afternoon and was able to whack it 3 times tonight. havent done that in a long time! crazy!  pretty good orgasms too. recovered fast.

well see how it goes....not gonna say anything else yet. i always jump the gun on things. but I do have a good feeling about this product. gonna have to give it some time. ill be back









Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: needhelpage31 on May 10, 2011, 11:39:06 AM
Our friend Alan, who had success with GABA, at one time mentioned Royal Jelly. I think I tried a few pills of it, but not for long, and certainly not the fresh stuff, whatever it is.

I'm willing to try it out. Things certainly can't get any worse for me!

If anyone else tries it, please post your experience and results here.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 10, 2011, 04:10:06 PM
Hi, royal jelly in pills is not the same thing at all as fresh royal jelly.

fresh royal jelly is the stuff that the queen bee takes, and it comes in a little bottle exactly the
way the bees produce them, and it's frozen to not spoil.

it tastes a bit bitter and good, and it can irritate your throat, if it comes in contact with it.

it makes you so horny, after a few days, you just have to be human for this to happen, with no
physical orgasmic impediments, i guess.

for me, even since i'm a bit stressed out now, meaning, i'm not thinking about sex, i know it
has given me the best orgasms i ever had in years and years.

sorry abt my english, as you can see i don't care how i plan or type things down.

but the point is, this is great stuff.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 10, 2011, 04:39:04 PM
it definitely seems to work for me.

i just had a lubrication and seminal ejaculation just to talk about sex to some hot james franco- look alike
(even better actually) brazilian 19yo guy on MSN.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on May 11, 2011, 09:49:24 PM
Hey, folks. I cross post interesting issues at the propecia site. I continued a thread someone else had on royal jelly, telling them about our results here. Their thread has revived, a few people are looking into buying some royal jelly

Here's the thread link. I hope it works without an account. If I remember right, it takes a couple of days to get a login there.http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=165&start=0 (http://www.propeciahelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=165&start=0)
and someone else posted a link to a good paper.
http://www.bio.davidson.edu/courses/genomics/2011/Bio309_papers/Honeybee_queen.pdf (http://www.bio.davidson.edu/courses/genomics/2011/Bio309_papers/Honeybee_queen.pdf)

Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on May 11, 2011, 09:55:13 PM
A request for those trying it and reporting their results.

Please give others as much detail as you can, particularly:

When I buy, I promise to do the same. If we get a few people trying the same thing, that could give us some useful information.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: needhelpage31 on May 12, 2011, 06:13:06 AM
Nofun: Great idea, to track brand, dose, etc. I will do the same. I'm just trying to figure out what to buy for myself.

Has the original poster of this thread said what brand or source he used? I didn't catch it.

I also found the Propecia site, and saw your comments there on 5/11. The internet is amazing!
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: researcher on May 12, 2011, 03:23:56 PM
Thought I lost the effect yesterday... scared me. Today I took a royal jelly pill by NOW.... and then the fresh stuff buy NOW and the libido and good orgasm came back. Im wondering if you have to take extra for it to work. I forgot I took the pill the day I got the fresh stuff so I thought it was just the fresh stuff but, now im thinking the fresh stuff by NOW isnt potent enough.... So, I have to take the pill plus the fresh to get the effect. I hope the effect stays.

Im wondering about estrogen issues will creep up. I hope not. only time will tell.

I wanna get just the frozen fresh royal jelly only. gonna run to another health store to see if they have some.

anybody find a good site to order fresh frozen royal jelly?


Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 12, 2011, 08:04:35 PM
why are you on pills????

pills don't work at all, only the real stuff.

why do I have to keep saying the same thing over and over again?

royal jelly pills => no improved orgasms.

fresh royal jelly=> lots of sexual desire.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 12, 2011, 08:06:26 PM
just type fresh royal jelly on google maps and call them to ask if they have the fresh frozen form.

and read what i wrote, it helps.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: bongo on May 13, 2011, 01:57:28 AM
yeh yeh yeh not another miracle cure  what next rhino horn powder  tigers testicles this is becoming a joke .. full of crap all the web sites say it contains nothing but protein dont waste your money
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on May 13, 2011, 04:24:52 AM
yeh yeh yeh not another miracle cure  what next rhino horn powder  tigers testicles this is becoming a joke .. full of crap all the web sites say it contains nothing but protein dont waste your money
These threads are for the stories of people who were cured and discussions of how they think they were cured, not for snarky comments about their stories.

I'm grateful to people who take the time and energy to share their experience of what has worked for them.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: needhelpage31 on May 13, 2011, 06:22:09 AM
I'm with Nofun, and am glad when anyone can report improvement.

I just ordered some fresh royal jelly from a place in Ohio, which I should have by the middle of next week. (They won't ship until Monday.)

I will try it out for a couple weeks, and report back to the group here.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: empathy121 on May 13, 2011, 07:15:58 AM
I bought some fresh royal jelly with ginseng in vials years ago. Two weeks supply for £20 though I can confirm it really does work. Libido and everything greatly enhanced. Not just a placebo - this stuff genetically transforms worker bees into queen bees - it's not just a case of proteins...
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: researcher on May 13, 2011, 12:27:54 PM
why are you on pills????

pills don't work at all, only the real stuff.

why do I have to keep saying the same thing over and over again?

royal jelly pills => no enhanced oragasms.

fresh royal jelly=> lots of sexual desire.

I understood everything you said. I just had the pills before all this so I added them to the mixture.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 14, 2011, 05:10:40 PM
bongo

i do understand your skepticism.

maybe not all people can be "cured", and not one size fits all.

but you have to believe there is a definitive cure for this, otherwise, why would u even be here in the first place, if you don't believe there is a cure at all?

lastly, if there are a lot of stuff that can destroy our libidos and orgasms, then there might as well be
something that makes us horny. in my case that is fresh royal jelly. i lost count of how many
times i found myself fancying hot people on the subway and stuff.

fresh royal jelly has given me the best orgasms i ever had since being 27yo.

if you don't believe it, i feel sorry for you, go look for your own solution then.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: searchingforcure11 on May 15, 2011, 03:19:29 PM
I have gone off all supplements all together and have been seeing some improvement.  I wonder sometimes if too much can actually make the condition worse. 
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: lostmojo on May 17, 2011, 06:18:13 AM
Cross posted from Adrenal Fatigue topic...

Looking at this page: http://www.natural-cure-remedy.com/adrenal-fatigue.html it mentions many things but among them are Niacin (Inositol hexaniacinate), B5 and B6. For me Inositol and Royal Jelly (which contains B5 & B6 in abundance) are the only supplements that have done anything at all I could notice, in my case a pleasant tingling in the penis, this sensation is there when I start taking them but goes away after the first few days.

Ok, this is getting interesting, I have been seeing a chiropractor of late. I was hoping that there might have been a misalignment in the pelvic region which could be corrected. No luck there and no increase in sensation but the guy is also a Kinesiologist and from some of his muscle testing he said that I had a pituitary gland problem! I remember finding that quite intriguing because I had done a lot of research into adrenal and thyroid gland issues but I never quite matched up with enough of the symptoms. And as he said the pituitary gland is a level higher up the hierarchy and can cause all sorts of problems down the chain if it's not functioning as it should.

Anyway he did do some work on it which he said would help, not sure if I can notice much difference but perhaps just a tiny bit better. I will try and get some fresh Royal Jelly and post back the results.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: Saul on May 17, 2011, 06:37:23 AM
Kinesiology has been proven fraudulent by double blind studies (the gold standard of scientific testing).
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: bongo on May 17, 2011, 07:15:55 AM
im sure youre been honest but im sure youre different than a lot of us  it doesnt matter how horny i am ive been that horny id shag anything or one  but it doesnt make the orgasm any better maybe youre thinking we all cant reach orgasm  but we can its just crap when we do  been more horny wont help if anything we,d come quicker  and crapper
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: searchingforcure11 on May 17, 2011, 10:00:25 AM
For me personally the more horny I am the better orgasm.  Being more horny leads to better overall feeling during build up.  The more feeling during build up makes me feel orgasms better then if I am not horny at all and just try to get off.  When I have erections all day and I get that feeling in my dick before trying to get off it usually leads to pleasure.  The more I have the urge to get off the better feeling for me.  I have also noticed if I get off again like 30 minutes after the first time that also a lot of times leads to a very pleasureable orgasm.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: Saul on May 17, 2011, 10:40:48 AM
im sure youre been honest but im sure youre different than a lot of us  it doesnt matter how horny i am ive been that horny id shag anything or one  but it doesnt make the orgasm any better maybe youre thinking we all cant reach orgasm  but we can its just crap when we do  been more horny wont help if anything we,d come quicker  and crapper

don't confuse ejaculation with orgasm, people can orgasm without ejaculation and ejaculate without orgasm
that is why it's refered to as ejaculatory anhedonia and not anorgasmia
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: needhelpage31 on May 17, 2011, 12:21:44 PM
+1 to dan1121's comment above. I find that the more "in the mood" I am, the better the overall experience. (Even though it still ends weakly.)
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: searchingforcure11 on May 17, 2011, 02:33:13 PM
ya I can almost always predict when I will have some pleasure when I ejaculate or when I wont.  Just strange why sometimes its better build up and I feel more pleasure during build up then others.  But definitely the key is the pleasure during build up is much better and I dont ejaculate as fast which helps prolong that build up which leads to pleasure during ejaculation.  I am wondering myself if after some time the effects of the SSRI's I took might start to wear off.  It will be about 7 or 8 years now since I took that effexor.  Might take 10 years to fully get back to normal.  That could explain why some people here notice cures.  It could possibly be their brains finally got back to normal after being off SSRIs.  it seems most of us here have taken antidepressants at one point in our lives.  I took effexor 3 months thats all but it might have caused all the problems. 
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: needhelpage31 on May 17, 2011, 07:49:17 PM
jrsousa2 - my fresh royal jelly arrived today. I was surprised how small the jar was. (I bought 4 oz.) I took some after dinner. I put it on some bread with honey, to try and mask the flavor. It doesn't taste good, but it's manageable.

So I just now reread your posts, looking for two things: 1) your own dosage and 2) how long until you saw results.

On page 1 of this thread, it appears you said that more is better, but even small amounts help. Do you measure out an amount each day? If so, how much?

Also, you said there were strong effects after 1 or 2 weeks. So should I assume it could be that long before I feel a difference?

Thank you so much, in advance, for your answers.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: rizsa on May 18, 2011, 02:51:06 AM
The best way to consume RJ is to put it under your tongue, when you wake up and don't eat anything for another 30 minutes. Also RJ shouldn't touch anything metal (like a spoon).
For sexual problems the recommended dosage is 2 g / day.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 18, 2011, 06:37:58 PM
hi needhelpage31, for me it's been unbelievable. i started taking it in december, 2010, and i was confusing its effect with the crappy gaba that i was taking, which had already lost the effectiveness.

i think only 1 or 2 days, and you'll be able to feel it already, if you feel. a curious feature of this product is, it makes me feel like a horny bastard (it depends on what excites you the most, lol).
before that no one was good enough, with it, even the dullest ones start to be appealing.
so, a sign that it's being effective is when you start to sexually notice people that you didn't notice before,
which must be pretty obvious.

i watch porn with such an excitement, and i feel so compelled by the strong sexual desire that i can't even feel
guilty over sexual fancies. after royal jelly it's wild, no remorses.

btw, very fortunately for me, fresh jelly doesn't seem to wan with use, as happens with gaba.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: rizsa on May 19, 2011, 04:35:32 AM
jrsousa2, you're male and homosexual, correct? (not suggesting it wouldn't work for heteros, just asking)
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: Saul on May 19, 2011, 08:11:32 AM
yeah, i had to check up that that one after 'men' 'horny bitch' and 'being fucked'
he is a guy, i back checked the thread and he says his 'cock' so i think that question is answered :P
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: empathy121 on May 19, 2011, 09:42:17 AM
@ jrsousa2

can you explain a bit more about your story. Have you had completely pleasureless ejaculations for the last 10 years and then one day it was cured by the royal jelly supplements, or have you been having occasional / reasonably pleasurable orgasms? Can you identify what changed in order for you to experience a proper orgasm? Many thanks for sharing this.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 19, 2011, 04:54:15 PM
[sorry for my meltdown, I used to be a moron back then]

I had been a long time on finasteride, minoxidil (about 2 years ago), some SSRI (but long gone),
and I noticed that some stuff that affect libido were easily affecting my libido, such as gym supplements.

i have discontinued all of that stuff (minoxidil, finasteride, saw palmetto) a long time ago,
and i never noticed any libido and orgasms improvement, only when i started taking fresh royal jelly,
it makes me believe that the FRJ has recovered my lost libido, orgasms.

whether it will last forever, whether it will become better and better or worsen, i don't know.
i noticed that my stress, lack of sleep or moods at times make my libido even with FRJ less pleasant.
maybe it will kick ass again if stop for some time and resume.

but undoubtedly, no single thing had ever made me cum so much better as jelly.
i have had some 10/10 orgasms recently...well...if there's anything that is better than this,
i definitely want to know...
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 19, 2011, 05:00:11 PM
btw, sorry i didn't quite answer the question...

yes, my orgasms since about 7-8 years ago (since I was 27yo, I'm now 36yo) were
very dull, frustrating...lots of desire to have sex, to jerk off, but once I did, no
pleasure at all.
I would rate them, 3 or 4 out of 10...even less at times...
I can't believe how much time I have wasted orgasm-wise...

If I knew I would have gone back in time and never used minoxidil, finasteride, and other
crap.

there are better alternatives for baldness, and that's Vitamin E and nizoral shampoo.

ps: sorry guys that I got offended, your posts hadn't been prejudiced after all...
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 19, 2011, 05:05:46 PM
btw, with jelly i am able to jack off and cum twice...at times.

before jelly, that would be impossible.

i'm constantly horny, hahaha
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: bongo on May 21, 2011, 07:45:10 AM
ok where the best place to  get from  what make are you using  and what dosage ?? and how much ££  $$ 
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: hopepleasure on May 21, 2011, 06:02:05 PM
ive taking fresh royal gelee and ginseng + royal gelee in small bottles.ive started to take it 10 days ago . yesterday i had great orgasms but today things back to the usual unpleasurable masturbation. i advise u to try it and share ur experience. i hope pleasure will be back cause its weird to feel good a while and lose pleasure in a  while.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 21, 2011, 08:10:05 PM
hopepleasure

i took this ginseng and royal jelly. it's not to be confused with fresh royal jelly.

ginseng+royal jelly didn't work for me either, at all.

fresh royal jelly is the real thing and comes in a small pack and costs about $20.
it's the stuff that the bees produce, it's not manufactured, it's simply packed.

i just had another great masturbation. hornyness is constant when you
use fresh royal jelly, and the hotter the stimulus, the better the orgasms.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: hopepleasure on May 22, 2011, 04:11:35 AM
im already taken fresh royal gelly since 10 days in addition to another thing in small bottles wich is composed by royal gelee (not fresh) and composed by ginseng panax.

the fact is one of the things i have taken made some goode effects. but why does it stop right now while i still taken it.
i feel now like tense in the pelvic area when i masturbate. maybe i have to not masturbate a while.  and try to do it in 5 days while i still take the fresh royal gelle in addition to the other.

jrsousa2 you have try so many medecine just like me but have u tried testosterone ?cause my sexologue has found that my testosterone level is little low but quite normal.

i had tried testosterone like 3 month ago and its kind of weird cause testosterone stimulate the production of sperm wich takes 3 month to be created by our body. so is it a problem of sperm qualities wich dont give us orgasm or a problem in the pelvic area.

i notice that the time i was able to feel something is when i toke royal gelee+ giseng in small bottle but the effect stay only 10 days but this time i will still takin it to see if it will work.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 22, 2011, 10:16:59 AM
yes, I tried testosterone, but I didn't use it for long, cause I was afraid of cancer.

I used the safest version, the gel. the doctor said it was not to be applied in the groin, so I didn't.

my Testo levels were low too, but within the normal range. He said maybe that was being caused
by the fact that though within normal range, it could have been higher in the past.

But, nevermind, these doctors are idiots who are guessing just like everybody else here, the patients.
Never seen a doctor give me a reliable indication of what was causing this problem, they are clueless when it comes to anorgasmia.
explanation is always 'psychological.' clueless people, if you ask me.

my hornyness continues, i'm going for the 4th pack or so now. today i woke up horny and need to jack off lots and lots. hehe.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 22, 2011, 10:21:06 AM
for me the chinese ginseng+royal jelly in small bottles didn't do anything.

as i said i've tried almost everything, i even have a list, only effective thing so far was fresh jelly. i wonder
if there are things that are more powerful and still beneficial.

Tests:
Thyroid normal
Prolactin normal
Testosterone normal

Things tried:

L-Tyrosine
Lecithin=> doesn't work
Niacinamide=> don't know
Acetyl-L-Carnitine
Choline=> doesn't work
Inositol=> don't know
Tribulus Terristris=> works a bit for sometime (only libido, not orgasm)
GABA ("Now" brand)=>improves orgasm and libido, but not too intensely and not for long (have to take every other day)
Zeus=>increases sperm amount and libido a bit
GABA Plus Twinlab=>haven't tried yet
L-Theanine=> don't know
Zinc=> don't know if works, trying right now (maybe have tried in the past too, doesn't work)
Vitamin D=>don't know
Vitamin E=>don't know
Gingko Biloba=>works a bit for some time
DHEA=>don't know (increases DHT, which is responsible for sexual drive)
Alpha lipoic acid=>doesn't work
Omega-3=>don't know
Cod liver oil=>nope
Testosterone gel=>didn't seem to work for me, but I didn't take it for long
Bupropion=> seems to work, but don't know how long for, since it makes you totally sleepless
5-HTP (doesn't seem to work)
Complexo B (doesn't seem to work)
Produto para ativar a Thyroid (doesn't work)
Twinlab GABA (doesn't work)
Fresh royal jelly (it seems to work)
chinese Royal Jelly+Jinseng in bottles doesn't work
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 22, 2011, 10:23:45 AM
DHEA=> gives you palpitation...works, but maybe not for long.

the list above is a little outdated.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: hopepleasure on May 22, 2011, 10:44:56 AM
i think the same about doctors . when they cant explain a thing they say its due to depression or psycological issue.ive stop to take testostesterone because of the side effect cancer liver etc...

i have to rise the amount of royal gelee that i take im taking 1 G  im gonna try 2 G even if its expensive we will see
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: hopepleasure on May 22, 2011, 10:49:15 AM
i have lost many pleasure in the life i mean i cant feeel emotion like i used to do before..  ive lost some reflex like im not scared or touched when something bad happens. i dont feel sad its kind of weird but when the orgasms is back it makes life more pleasurable if some people feel the same i would be glad to know ur experience.
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Post by: empathy121 on May 22, 2011, 10:50:05 AM
@ jrsousa2

Thanks for feeding back. You describe orgasms as a 3-4 out of 10 during the time you had EA. I think I would be happy with that! Unfortunately I don't experience 'orgasm' at all and ejaculation is completely dull.

I developed EA in the first place by straining during masturbation to try and rush it and force ejaculation. Do you remember doing anything similar when you were on the meds? I know how hard it is to cum on antidepressants - I'm wondering if the post-SSRI group developed the problem in the same way.

Were you aware of any changes occurring when you experienced a full orgasm? Were your muscles in that area more relaxed than normal?

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 22, 2011, 11:28:06 AM
muscle wise I never noticed differences, not because they don't exist, but because i never paid attention.

i do notice that when i am horny and can have orgasms, my penis will have that peculiar smell which it doesn't
have when i can't orgasm.
i also noticed that when they were dull, there was no build up or racing heartbeats.

i have had 9.5/10 orgasms with fresh royal jelly (with masturbation, probably 10 out of 10 if it were with a
real hot person).
now intensity has decreased a tiny bit, but the hornyness doesn't stop.
i notice i become totally uninterested in sex after i ejaculate and have an orgasm, which is a good sign.
it's a clear indication that satisfaction has been attained and now it's time to rebuild, and wait for the next LOL.

as for muscle problems, i have jacked off so much in the past, and then became orgasmless and now i can have it again.
if it had to do with muscle maybe i would never ever feel it again, because the muscle can't be fixed. (?)

i tend to think it has to do with brain cells, these cells in the brain need something that will instruct the body on what to do to achieve orgasms.

i think that the fresh royal jelly tricks the body into going into full reproduction mode, so you become horny as fuck and the urge to procreate is so compelling that you become very attracted to the male or female.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: bongo on May 23, 2011, 01:38:17 AM
i repeat what make? manufacture/ producer  where to buy what web site/ address?
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on May 23, 2011, 10:28:31 PM
i repeat what make? manufacture/ producer  where to buy what web site/ address?
I just purchased some from Iherb, a NOW Foods brand of freeze dried royal jelly, currently on sale. I was making my quaterly vitamin buy anyway.
http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Royal-Jelly-60-Capsules/811?at=0 (http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-Royal-Jelly-60-Capsules/811?at=0)

Good price on a good brand. I always recommend Iherb.
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Post by: Searchin4answers on May 23, 2011, 10:41:21 PM
I've been taking a teaspoon or two of Y.S. Organic Bee Farms Royal Jelly for about 10 days now and have had no positive results. I'll keepusing it until the bottle runs out and then on to the next thing. Has anyone had any positive results with this?
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: manny on May 24, 2011, 02:38:50 AM
Everyone who's taking royal jelly, fresh or not, keep us updated with your results, even if it isn't positive results.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: AnotherEAguy on May 24, 2011, 01:28:55 PM
Ok, I'll bite. Ordered a 4oz jar from ebeehoney.com which should arrive in a few days. I'll post back with results. 'Researcher' and others who had some success following Jrsousa, how is it going? Haven't heard from ppl in a while on this thread who reported early results. Would love to hear from you guys!
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: Michael on May 24, 2011, 01:52:04 PM
5 days ago I bought organic Fresh Royal Jelly from Whole Foods.

I consume 1/2 teaspoon (spoon included within their package) with honey each morning on an empty stomach.

No improvement....

will continue, and update everyone

-Michael

Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: researcher on May 24, 2011, 04:25:08 PM
sorry, Ive been waiting for my fresh royal jelly to arrive that I ordered from ebeehoney.com and have been busy with work.

stopped taking now royal jelly pills and the regular now royal jelly cuz the effect wore off.... but then i took some of the regular jelly (not the pills and not the fresh stuff)...the other day after a week break and it brought back hornyness. maybe it needs to be taken every other day or every 2 days?? I dunno.only bad thing for me is that I can feel the estrogen aromatize when i take it. (itchy nips, night sweat) that's the only sides I have from it so far.

anyways im waiting to get my FRESH royal jelly soon... looking forward to trying it. still got hope that it will help because the regular stuff helped. ill let y'all know.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on May 24, 2011, 11:16:30 PM
stopped taking now royal jelly pills and the regular now royal jelly cuz the effect wore off.... but then i took some of the regular jelly (not the pills and not the fresh stuff)...the other day after a week break and it brought back hornyness. maybe it needs to be taken every other day or every 2 days??

On the diminishing effects with constant use, I posted this on the propecia site:
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From the changes of Prolactin down, LH up, and T up, and the iindicated effects on the pituitary, I'd guess it works far upstream on GNRH release. If we take that as the mechanism, Crazy Horny probably corresponds to what can happen with too much GNRH stimulation, and we should expect the same issues - eventual desensitization.

Once I buy some, I'll approach it like HCG therapy - 2-3 times a week. I'm not sure whether to shoot for large initial doses, like I've heard people doing for HCG, or a slow ramping up to avoid desensitization.

Have there been estimates of how HCG and Free T blood levels change with twice weekly dosage? We'd probably want to replicate the Free T level changes over the week.

If you're seeing diminishing effects with constant use, try taking it only twice a week. Or once a week. Someone on the propecia site reported that they had diminishing effects, went off it for a week, and had renewed effect when he started again.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: Saul on May 25, 2011, 02:49:22 PM
researcher: If your nipples are itch it suggests some mammary gland production. Be very watchful of your pectoral area to make sure you are not developing gynecomastia (breast production in men).
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 25, 2011, 05:41:27 PM
people are so stupid, I have been saying over and over again that dry pill form is no good, they don't listen.
what a bunch of idiots.
sorry i lost my patience.

the brand doesn't matter, because it's the same thing as asking what brand of banana is the best, or
what brand of lettuce is the best. well...
i know I buy a small pack that sells for 20 bucks.

it's frozen, and it tastes like natural bee jelly, that's what it is. i think the brand only goes as far as
packing and marketing the stuff.

they are not produced in mass, so, i have to call before I go to the store. they sell it in
kinda small quantities.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 25, 2011, 05:48:14 PM
well, I have to say that my intense hornyness is a bit gone.

but it's been 5 months, of intense hornyness, and I think some anti depressants I have been
taking may be the culprit.

plus, I feel sleepy as fuck, since I went to bed late and woke up early.

being sleepy kills orgasms.

I still think though that the more royal jelly I take, and the more sleep I have, and
if I'm not taking anti depressants and crap like that, my hornyness is rock hard.

the other day I jacked off 3 times and had orgasms 3 times, and it was awesome. but i was very rested, unlike today.

that was on sunday, just 2 days ago.

I'm just saying that hornyness now is 6/10 (sunday it was 9/10), and orgasmic satisfaction has been 9.5/10, last time
it was 7 maybe 8/10?

I think the more fresh jelly the better, I just took a teaspoon, weren't it for my sleepyness, i would be horny as a fucking bastard. lol
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 25, 2011, 05:52:49 PM
i mean, orgasms have been 9.5/10, sometimes 9/10, but that was some time ago,
as of late it has been more like 8/10, like that.

which has probably to do with how rested I am, what drugs I'm taking, and if I am
stressed out, then, orgasm is worse.

sometime ago I didn't take anything, I've been on some anti depressants for insomnia and
mental worries.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 25, 2011, 06:29:52 PM
btw, now is my time to ask.

I've been taking trazodone (almost an SSRI) for about 1 month, 50mg, as sleep aid.

is it possible that this drug is hampering my great orgasms with royal jelly???
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: bongo on May 26, 2011, 05:14:11 AM
why would you need ssri s if you have great orgasms  if any of us had an orgasm even 7 out of ten we,d be so over joyed we wouldnt risk taking any other tablets .... youve dashed a lot of peoples hopes with you stupid ramblings [including mine ]...
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: Saul on May 26, 2011, 09:11:39 AM
SSRI's have a well documented effect on libido, but there is little evidence to suggest it also reduces the pleasure when orgasm is achieved.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 26, 2011, 03:55:25 PM
bongo, hope your neurons are not on vacation.

i started taking trazodone (almost an ssri) 1 month ago for insomnia, not cause i wanted
to have orgasms.

read the whole thread before you jump to conclusions, stupid.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 26, 2011, 08:36:54 PM
saul, you were very much idiotic in your point.

libido is highly correlated with orgasm.

if you're very horny, it's more likely that the orgasm will be full blown.

if you're not horny at all, good luck trying to get an orgasm.

why are people in this forum so stupid? no university degrees?
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Post by: researcher on May 26, 2011, 10:09:23 PM
J.r. please tone it down. no need to call people names. were all trying to solve this problem. getting angry and making fun of people does no good.


just forget it and focus on trying to help others.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: Saul on May 26, 2011, 11:33:08 PM
That's known as an ad hominem and is used by those who cannot come up with a reasoned argument against a claim, so instead they attack the person. You may want to re-read the point and consider the content of the message for a moment. The crux of the argument is 'well documented' vs 'little evidence.' However it is not my point, but a point made by the scientific community and in response to your argument from incredulity....'science doesn't care what you think.'

Anyway, orgasm is correlated with libido in frequency not necessarily in quality. You may find it more difficult to achieve orgasm while on SSRI's, that does not mean the orgasm will be more or less pleasurable.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 27, 2011, 02:42:30 PM
saul, if you think like that, then think again.

orgasm is highly correlated with hornyness, period.

you are not feeling horny, your orgasm won't be kick-ass.

sometimes though, we're not in the mood, and once we start to be stimulated
the hornyness kicks in. in that case the orgasm can be kick-ass.

having a kick-ass orgasm without being horny: i don't think so. it's so evident.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on May 27, 2011, 05:57:38 PM
I've been taking trazodone (almost a SSRI) for about 1 month, 50mg, as sleep aid.

is it possible that this drug is hampering my great orgasms with royal jelly???
It is possible. Relatively unlikely compared to SSRIs. It's effects tend to be prosexual, if anything.

Why trazodone? It's use is relatively rare.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on May 27, 2011, 06:01:59 PM
orgasm is highly correlated with hornyness, period.

you are not feeling horny, your orgasm won't be kick-ass.
...
having a kick-ass orgasm without being horny: i don't think so. it's so evident.
While I agree there is a correlation between libido and orgasmic intensity, it's also clear that you can have either without the other. This is the anhedonic ejaculation site, after all. If ejaculation itself can be separated from orgasm, certainly libido can.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on May 27, 2011, 06:07:10 PM
saul, you were very much idiotic in your point.
...
why are people in this forum so stupid? no university degrees?
I wonder a bit about how trazodone is affecting you. I mean this in a sincere, objective sense. I haven't gone back and looked at your posts, but I've felt a shift in your tone since you've been here, going back maybe a couple of weeks now.

Why don't you print out all your posts in this thread and share them with the doc prescribing trazodone, and see what he thinks? And read them yourself, of course.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 28, 2011, 03:03:00 AM
nofun, you are not being fun, or funny for that matter.

i said what I said because though there can be ejaculation without orgasm, there can't
be orgasm without you being horny.

i don't think you guys know what not being horny means. it means you don't desire to have
sex at all.

in that case, if you try it, the orgasm won't be good. anyway, i wash my hands, i have been
having reasonable orgasms (they are not just being better cause i haven't got a very hot partner,
so far it's been only jack offs to hot porn).
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on May 28, 2011, 09:23:07 AM
nofun, you are not being fun, or funny for that matter.
Hence the name.

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i said what I said because though there can be ejaculation without orgasm, there can't
be orgasm without you being horny.
That's an empirical claim that happens to be false. There are the rare women who have involuntary orgasms all day. There are the less rare women who can have orgasms practically on demand. And there is the more obvious case of forced orgasms.

You can find people of all 3 types who will tell you they were having an orgasm when they had no libido at all.

Having only 2 orgasm in my life, I can't testify personally to the effect.

Quote
i don't think you guys know what not being horny means. it means you don't desire to have sex at all. in that case, if you try it, the orgasm won't be good.
Another empirical claim, slightly different, that also happens to be false.

I can personally attest to this one.

*All* my orgasms occurred when I wasn't horny. All 2. My first in the shower, and my second with a partner. I have a better recollection of the second. I was mainly just annoyed that I wasn't ejaculating, and just felt more determined to continue than anything else.

Quote
anyway, i wash my hands, i have been having reasonable orgasms (they are not just being better cause i haven't got a very hot partner, so far it's been only jack offs to hot porn).
I'll refrain from the obvious reply to keep my NoFun branding intact.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 28, 2011, 12:40:22 PM
hi nofun, sorry to hear about your story. only 2 orgasms in your whole life? that sucks.

i don't think that type of anhedonia can be resolved with fresh jelly then.

i still think though that for' 'normal people', orgasm happen when they are horny.

that could be easily verified with some statistics and some survey. how people rate theur
orgasms, and how people rate how horny they were when they had it.
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Post by: searchingforcure11 on May 28, 2011, 07:11:06 PM
jrsousa2 I definitely agree and from my experience I cant get a good orgasm if I am not horny to begin with.  Lately I have been horny and I really feel like I am getting better.  Lately I have waited to get horny instead of just getting off for the fun of it.  I wait till I feel that feeling that I am ready.  Almost always I get some pleasure if I want till I am horny for sure.  If not then i dont bother then eventually I get horny again.  I let my body dictate to me when I need to get off instead of when I was younger just get off.  I will keep you all posted.  Its weird because I am off all pills and supplmenets completly.  I wonder if too much of supplements is actually effecting things.  I have not been on anything for about 3 months. 
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 28, 2011, 08:01:47 PM
I know that some substances totally kill my orgasms.

The worst are so anti depressants and some gym supplements, such as Monster Pack, animal pack, and
anti-DHt stuff.

I'm on some sleep aid stuff, hope I can decrease and totally remove them some time.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 30, 2011, 03:49:49 PM
omg my hornyness is back...

i love it...
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: hopepleasure on May 30, 2011, 04:29:26 PM
nice to hear from ur success jr.
do u feel the difference between takin antidepressant and royal gelee and only royal gelle? do u feel that anti depressive kill ur libido ?
im on my third week into royal gelee . it seems to come and go ...
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 30, 2011, 06:36:01 PM
hi, omg, today i'm as horny as the most prositute of the whores, hahahaha

i just jacked off to good to some amazingly hot youtube videos featuring ripped guys and their abs.

yes, anti depressants like SSRI's will kill your libido easily. however, with fresh jelly I'm not sure whether
libido would still decrease as well as orgasm. maybe a bit.

well, today I was certainly as horny as fuck, and I couldn't stop thinking about sex. I think there is a high
correlation hornyess X good orgasm, though there can be exceptions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e80sN-sbz_o&feature=related
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Post by: researcher on May 31, 2011, 06:41:06 PM
sorry boys i wish the fresh royal jelly from ebeehoney would help but nothing so far. its expensive and theres not enough of it either. too bad...

regular now royal jelly worked right off the bat. I bet if I would of tried the fresh stuff it would have had the same effect and then wore off. I wonder why the effect wore off? there's gotta be some explanation. I wish I was omnipotent and able to solve all these problems. gonna go back and experiment a little bit with the regular royal jelly.


thanks to jrousa for reporting this. i can see why he is so excited! because when it worked I was on.

back to the lab

keep trying, stay positive, and don't give up.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on May 31, 2011, 08:27:45 PM
hey guys, it's strange, i've never been so horny as during this time that I've experimented with fresh royal jelly.

but to be very honest, it hasn't been a constant feeling, and I suspect the feeling started to become a little erratic
(ups and downs) after I started some prescription medications.

when I was totally clean then it was almost constant, lots of hornyness and lots of satisfaction when i reached orgasms.

well, i'm fighting to remove set me free from these medications (just trazodone and a tiny bit of lorazepam)
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on June 29, 2011, 05:59:11 PM
hum, recently i started to take a supposedly testosterone booster and unlike expected,
I became totally uncapable of having orsgasm.

after 2-3 days not taking it, and using royal jelly, my orgasms came back.

you have to be very careful and never believe what these products promise you.
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Post by: michaelsad on June 29, 2011, 06:18:06 PM
What is the name of that t booster ?
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on June 29, 2011, 07:08:45 PM
the name of this crappy testosterone booster, very expensive btw, is Zeus.

I have always noticed how most gym supplements seem to render me totally incapable
of having orgasm.

I thought with Zeus it would be different, but it was the very same crap.

Now I'm under the impression that everything that makes you gain muscle, even things
that should supposedly be giving you orgasm, will take them away.
Even testosterone, and other supposedly libido enhancers.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on June 29, 2011, 07:10:03 PM
royal jelly without Zeus=> I can come so well, like I did today

royal jelly with Zeus=> I couldn't come and I started to thought royal jelly
had worn off.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: Alan19email on June 29, 2011, 08:22:50 PM
SSRI's have a well documented effect on libido, but there is little evidence to suggest it also reduces the pleasure when orgasm is achieved.

Hello Saul, When I first reported to my doctor that I was no longer experiencing the pleasure of orgasm when ejaculating he didn't seem surprised at all because he had heard it hundreds of times before from other patients he had placed on SSRI's. He asked for details and I explained that I still got horny, wanted to have sex, found a partner [or not] and everything felt good, wonderful and just when that magical moment of unbelievably intense pleasure was about to burst, instead there would be lots of fluid but the pleasure was no more rewarding than blowing my nose.

My doctor still thought it best that I continue the medication and did not share with me at the time that there was about a 100% chance that the SSRI had done this to me. I remember that I was as horny as ever but gradually stopped wanting to be bothered with a partner, finding it easier to be with myself when the disappointing moments came.  I would have to strain until I almost started passing out to have an ejaculation. First the pleasure of orgasm goes away, then wanting a partner goes, then the ability to ejaculate goes away. The depression continues only now added to it is the daily dread of wanting and then trying to have sex, alone, sometimes impossible and the horrible disappointment that always followed.

Finally a good friend sat me down and had me remember my depression before and after SSRI's and helped me see that life was worse with them. I stopped taking them and the doc didn't notice, he seemed to think I was doing better. Sex became possible again but with out any orgasm to finish it off.

Huge quantities of zinc would give me about a 2 on the 1-10 scale, and this was the start of me using myself as a guinea pig. 

I have mentioned in here a couple of years ago about how a Bee product would work and then not work for me. I just checked and it was a freeze dried product in capsule form with three different bee products in it. I do not think we should dismiss some of the products that people have tried, like GABA for instance as they seem to do something like a jump start. You know, your battery is almost dead and you hook up another battery and give your battery a jump start and now your vehicle starts right up and then, you no longer need the 'jump start'. Once was enough to get the car going. That is how I feel about most all of the products that worked and then stopped working for me.

I am going to order up some of the fresh bee product and see what it does for me now that I consider my orgasm completely normal.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: empathy121 on July 01, 2011, 11:01:41 AM
SSRI's have a well documented effect on libido, but there is little evidence to suggest it also reduces the pleasure when orgasm is achieved.

I remember that I was as horny as ever but gradually stopped wanting to be bothered with a partner, finding it easier to be with myself when the disappointing moments came.  I would have to strain until I almost started passing out to have an ejaculation.

This fits exactly with my theory of a learned tension problem aka pelvic floor dysfunction. Have you ever made the connection that maybe this straining was the cause of your problem?
I don't think it's a coincidence how a lot of people here relate the onset to this. I started a thread about it: Pelvic Floor Dysfunction which has quotes from medical books. Could you have a read and see if it fits?
Many thanks
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jv3 on July 01, 2011, 08:34:31 PM
jrsousa2 I would just like to offer my sincerest gratitude for taking the time to let the rest of us know about your success with the Royal Bee Jelly. I have recently been affected by the Proscar (Finasteride) I was taking and, after reading how the awful effects were likely to be permanent, felt that suicide was imminent. Now I have some hope that my life might not be over. Please don't ever let the pessimists or rude people who are also posting deter you from sharing your experiences. God bless you!


the name of this crappy testosterone booster, very expensive btw, is Zeus.

I have always noticed how most gym supplements seem to render me totally incapable
of having orgasm.

I thought with Zeus it would be different, but it was the very same crap.

Now I'm under the impression that everything that makes you gain muscle, even things
that should supposedly be giving you orgasm, will take them away.
Even testosterone, and other supposedly libido enhancers.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on July 03, 2011, 10:35:37 AM
Hi, I'm having some bad news.

I discontinued Zeus for a few days, became very horny, had a great orgasm with fresh royal jelly.

after a few days without Zeus and taking fresh jelly, I'm not horny anymore.

I always know for sure if I am capable of having orgasm because when I do my cock exhales a lot of scent. when
it doesn't, it means I am not horny, I can't have orgasm.

Though I had a great orgasm friday night, with partner, after that I took more fresh jelly,, was horny but it wore off.

Now, cock is scentless, i'm not horny, and I have even taken lots of fresh jelly.

this fresh jelly has worked way better in the past. I wonder if I have to not take a lot in order for it
to work.

someone has said having too much substances on our bodies can harm the libido/orgasm. maybe.

I know there are a few things that could be hampering my orgasm, I continue to use a tiny bit of lorazepam,
as sleep aid, and I'm a bit depressed with a few bad things going on where I live, job.

I don't know, this libido issues are hard to solve.

btw, commiting suicide over low libido is too much.

how much libido/orgasm have you got? mine are not being constant, but at times
I get great ones.

i just have to keep trying, stopping fresh jelly, restart it, stop other supplements, restart them,
see if dosages make a difference.

I know there was a time that with fresh jelly, it was almost always great no matter what other
things i was taking, now not so much.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on July 03, 2011, 10:40:49 AM
jv3

can you please post the article where it says the awful effects from finasteride could be permanent.

how come nobody has ever sued these motherfuckers? though there are things to make us recover
orgasm, I wonder if this is the case that we will never have great orgasms again because of that garbage.

it's been years since i stopped using that crap and still have it.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on July 03, 2011, 10:42:17 AM
I meant actually, that we will always struggle to have great orgasms.

after the use of finasteride, we have to always struggle to have orgasms, whereas
without it it would always come naturally.

god damn you finasteride makers.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: Alan19email on July 05, 2011, 10:00:36 AM
Empathy wrote: This fits exactly with my theory of a learned tension problem aka pelvic floor dysfunction. Have you ever made the connection that maybe this straining was the cause of your problem?
I don't think it's a coincidence how a lot of people here relate the onset to this. I started a thread about it: Pelvic Floor Dysfunction which has quotes from medical books. Could you have a read and see if it fits?

ALAN: I am sorry but I do not see any connection with this and my experience. Clearly after a couple of years of not taking pharmacutical's [SSRI's] and living a very healthy life and eating highly nutritious food my body recovered from the damage of the SSRI's. I believe that each of my experiments with nutrients trying to restore normal sexual functioning helped my body recover or re-learn what was normal; I HAD THE EA FIRST AND THAT IS WHY I STARTED TO STRAIN MY MUSCLES HOPING TO FORCE MY BODY INTO AN ORGASM DURING EJACULATION. I had no pleasure and then by straining I was hoping to have some pleasure. I never got any from straining so I stopped and just did with out. My doc reduced the strength of the meds and slowly I was able to have sex again with out too much difficulty but the EA continued for another couple of years.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on July 18, 2011, 02:51:18 PM
my libido seems to be coming back again...strong...

i purchased frelly royal jelly from a supposedly better maker, more reliable, and i think
it has been working well...

i still haven't tested how good the orgasms will be, but ive been feeling so energetic after
taking this product.

i'll keep you posted. many men i see on the street i have easily rated as 10, so this must be evidence
that the thing is working a bit...
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on July 18, 2011, 03:21:17 PM
I HAD THE EA FIRST AND THAT IS WHY I STARTED TO STRAIN MY MUSCLES HOPING TO FORCE MY BODY INTO AN ORGASM DURING EJACULATION. I had no pleasure and then by straining I was hoping to have some pleasure.
It's a similar story for me. I'm into the whole body work thing, and know how to stay relaxed. I've got books on pelvic floor exercises. Books by Franklin, Feldenkrais, Alexander, Pilates, Hanna, Todd, Sweigart.  If I stay relaxed, I just don't ejaculate. I've tried it. I've tried abstaining. It never worked for me. I have to gin up body tension to be able to ejaculate at all, and get a little release from libido from that.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on July 22, 2011, 04:27:32 PM
ok, I was wrong.

it's been one month or so that my libido wore off, even with fresh royal jelly.

i don't know why this is happening, but I will try to restart Gaba and use
fresh jelly at the same time, see if it comes back.

looks like there's never a definitive cure for this.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on July 22, 2011, 06:12:35 PM
my libido seems to be coming back again...strong...

i purchased frelly royal jelly from a supposedly better maker, more reliable, and i think
it has been working well...
I've been wondering if you're more right than you know about fresh frozen. Maybe it does lose it's potency very quickly, and we should be keeping it in the freezer, and take little scoops like ice cream.

Until your more recent post, I wondered if that was the only issue for you - that your RJ had lost potency in the refrigerator, and once you bought a new fresh batch, you would be back in business.

As for your "failure" after months and months of success, I'm more inclined to consider it a temporary set back requiring you to adjust your dosing schedule. You've been taking this everyday for months, right? Most of the hormonal treatments require some kind of cycling to work properly. The guy over at the propecia site who seems to be getting the best sustained results found that it diminished over time as well, but came back once he went to every other day dosing.

As for me, I don't think it helps me at all. If freshness is an issue, I think it is likely mine lost potency in shipping, if it ever had it prior to shipping, because of poor attempts at insulation and cooling.

It doesn't look like we've gotten a lot of improvement. I see 3 people who have reported some improvement - hopepleasure, jrousa2, and Researcher. There are maybe a few more over at the propecia site.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on July 24, 2011, 08:54:50 PM
hi my libido totally wore off again...

i know i am not getting the awesome orgasms anymore...

now, i'm trying 5htp, fresh royal jelly and gaba, see if it brings back good results.

my body seems to be accustomed to fresh royal jelly, so, hopes are gone.

after a while, with fresh royal jelly its been months, everything wears off.

ill keep you posted if i have improvements.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on July 24, 2011, 08:59:49 PM
hi, i have been trying to shorten the dosage to every other day, so far, no improvements either.

the orgasms are dull and the libido a bit worse than it used to be.

best orgasm recently was when i stopped zeus for 3 days. i came like mad, was horny like mad.

then, after that, all was gone again.

maybe zeus effect is lingering...
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: searchingforcure11 on July 24, 2011, 09:51:52 PM
So anyway I havent been taking the adderall and the good effects just dotn work the same after you take it a few days.  But I just wanted to chime in about the experience I had today.  This is about the 3rd or 4th time this happen to me.  I felt pretty sick today stomach bug and runs.  Anyway I had a spontaneous orgasm on the toilet and it was very very pleasurable.  I dont understand why when i get this pain my stomach and have diarhea that I get these amazing orgasms.  I wasnt jerking off or anything.  It was about 3 minutes of sitting there and the slightest touch just sitting there I could tell I would cum fast because this has happened to me before.  The stomach pain seems to trigger an orgasmic response which is the normal pleasure I used to get all the time as a teenager.  Has anyone ever had an orgasm like that from pain?  I know childbearing woman have been konwn to orgasm giving birth.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: NoFun on July 25, 2011, 02:08:28 AM
This is about the 3rd or 4th time this happen to me.  I felt pretty sick today stomach bug and runs.  Anyway I had a spontaneous orgasm on the toilet and it was very very pleasurable.  I dont understand why when i get this pain my stomach and have diarhea that I get these amazing orgasms. 
Are you sure you've had a bug all those times, and weren't having a reaction to a change in drugs, or some chemical you were exposed to?

Normally I'm all for "whatever works", but nausea and diarrhea are a bit much. Were you throwing up too?
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: searchingforcure11 on July 25, 2011, 06:16:23 AM
Yes it was a bug/virus.  Had store throat in the morning and felt sick all day long.  Roommate had the same thing 2 days earlier.  Something going around this area.  My point is what caused the orgasm was the sick feeling.  The pain in stomach is triggering something to cause an orgasm.  The orgasm happened right when I was trying to go to the bathroom.  Wasnt trying to get off just was trying to feel better.  I did not throw up.  Like I said I know this is a virus because other people I konw have it. 
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on July 30, 2011, 09:32:51 PM
i restarted gaba and libido and orgasms have improved a bit, but still very far from the peaks I experienced with fresh royal jelly.

i really don't know what caused fresh royal jelly to totally wear off. i know i have always used one drug or two, but not huge amounts or things that are known to cause an-orgasmia or a-libido.

besides, i wonder if working out could be a cause of lack of libido. but i had great orgasms when i was 26yo, just prior to using that goddamn trash called finasteride,
when i noticed my orgasms problems started.

also, during fresh jelly usage i worked out all during the time and many orgasms were great.

it seems there is a tendency for us to go back to not having orgasms, like a coil.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on August 05, 2011, 09:17:56 PM
I read this today on wikipedia and it made me frigging upset.
the garbage that these people sell to unaware men.

about Testosterone
Replacement therapy can take the form of injectable depots, transdermal patches and gels, subcutaneous pellets, and oral therapy. Adverse effects of testosterone supplementation include minor side effects such as acne and oily skin, and more significant complications such as increased hematocrit which can require venipuncture in order to treat, exacerbation of sleep apnea and acceleration of pre-existing prostate cancer  growth in individuals who have undergone androgen deprivation. Another adverse effect may be significant hair loss and/or thinning of the hair. This may be prevented with Propecia (Finasteride), which blocks DHT (a byproduct of testosterone in the body), during treatment. Exogenous testosterone also causes suppression of spermatogenesis and can lead to infertility.[54] It is recommended that physicians screen for prostate cancer with a digital rectal exam and PSA (prostate specific antigen) level before starting therapy, and monitor hematocrit and PSA levels closely during therapy.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: Erock on August 31, 2012, 02:20:11 PM
So I decided to pick up some fresh royal jelly. Its not the frozen kind. It comes in a glass jar at vitamin shoppe and is mixed with honey and pollen. But i cain't get the other stuff right away anyway so I figure ill try this for a few weeks. It comes with specific instructions not to refigerate so I put it in my basement to try and keep it cool. Hopefully ill see a little spike and that will encourage me to try the frozen stuff once the weather cools down.
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: Hertsman on October 03, 2012, 03:00:42 PM
From what I've read on this forum Royal Jelly does not sound like a cure. Looking on the internet a study done in Japan and published in 2007 shows that Royal Jelly has the propensity to mimic human estrogen, which may help those that suffer from low estrogen levels. As a man the last thing I want is estrogen. Does that mean we will end up growing man tits if we keep taking Royal Jelly?
Title: Re: Ok, I think I can now state that I certainly found my cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on July 13, 2013, 11:28:26 AM
From what I've read on this forum Royal Jelly does not sound like a cure. Looking on the internet a study done in Japan and published in 2007 shows that Royal Jelly has the propensity to mimic human estrogen, which may help those that suffer from low estrogen levels. As a man the last thing I want is estrogen. Does that mean we will end up growing man tits if we keep taking Royal Jelly?

I was suspected of having high estrogen levels but the thing that worked the best for me was fresh royal jelly.
However, it seems there is no specific cure really, things that work for some may not work for others.

And as we know, even if something has worked for you for some time, doesn't mean it will work forever.

It seems our body counter acts and attains its own "balance", which is the one in which we don't have any orgasms at all.
It seems my body thinks it's healthier to not have orgasms, it's my natural.

Read my reply on the other topic, fresh jelly R still works for me, it just doesn't work as well anymore.
Title: Re: I thought I could state that I found a cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on February 12, 2017, 09:01:34 PM
Lol, I was so reckless and immature a while ago (well, not that long ago actually.)
I'm kinda ashamed about the things I posted, lol, to see how obscene I'd been on posts,
even more given that am not a straight guy (should have been more composed, am a conservative guy.)
Oh well, who never cringed at things they did in the past when discretion levels were different, right?
Title: Re: I thought I could state that I found a cure
Post by: Some Day Soon on February 14, 2017, 10:16:40 AM
Jrsousa,

You shouldn't have to apologise at all. You have contributed in a positive way by letting us know what has worked for you in the past (if only temporarily). To be honest, I wouldn't give as detailed or as you say obscene descriptions as I remember you giving but it certainly hasn't or shouldn't have bothered anyone.

And you should definitely not be apologising, ashamed or embarrassed because you are gay.
Title: Re: I thought I could state that I found a cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on February 19, 2017, 03:40:45 PM
Thanks SomeDay
Btw, for those of you that kept asking me what fresh royal jelly was the kind that I've used,
this Amazon link has exactly it:

https://www.amazon.com/Fresh-Royal-Jelly-Ounces-Frozen/dp/B000UD1CKO/ref=sr_1_2_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1487538914&sr=8-2&keywords=frozen+fresh+royal+jelly

This is not however a recommendation to buy it, I think if you would like to try, you should find something
that's less expensive and in a smaller quantity to test if it will work first.
Title: Re: I thought I could state that I found a cure
Post by: jrsousa2 on August 31, 2017, 04:46:35 PM
Hi guys, I bought fresh royal jelly from amazon (an expensive kind, don't even know if it's the same as above),
and the truth is it really does make me horny as a fucking fuck.

I guess I didn't know how to use it properly, perhaps that's why I'd thought it wore off.
It's best if left in your mouth to be absorbed underneath your tongue for as long as possible, I usually allow
10-15 minutes, when you swallow, it's best if it's on empty stomach.

If you're well rested and you take it regularly on that fashion, at least for me it makes me 20 something again.

Today I saw 2 people on the street, and their sights made me so horny I felt like "attacking" them (lol).
Then I returned home and relieved myself with porn, omg, incredible.